Curse

Lord Zion · Aug 26, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

I was in ToA and got in a UW SC PUG. The leader of the party charged everybody 850g for the conset, after the whole team paid him, he left. The team wanted to report the guy but he went offline on status so we couldn't.

I know some people might come here and say: "add him to your list and whenever hes online report him".

Yeah it could be done but as i said it was a PUG, everybody got pissed off because he couldn't be reported and left the team. I believe is much easier for GMs to judge a if a player is really a scammer if 7 people report him then if only one do it.

Thx for your attention.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Aug 26, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

The report option is flawed, and this kind of thing has been brought up multible time. And is 850 really worth it?

dilan155 · Aug 26, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

yes, by god yes they really really need to change the report thing. there have been many instances when a player has scammed etc ( not to me but my friends) and was unable to report him as he either went offline or set status as offline. Also as you pointed out the number reporting makes a different. in RA for ex you might report someone for leaving ( flist him then report later) but he wont be punished because your party members might not report.
so /signed

Orange Milk · Aug 26, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

It also stops and officer of a guild posting in the status announcement that everyone in the guild should report "so and so". It's set up for the report to be made right then and there, so no one else getting second hand info reports them, same reason you have to be in the smae district. They want the report from the horses mouth, not unofficail witness baseing their report on hearsay.

Yeah the report is flawed, but it has it protections too, atleast it's there, and to be honest, next time don't pay until:

A) Your in UW
B) The Consets have been used

Then if he leaves, eh your a man down, but not so much ripped off.

Dang that common sense.

upier · Aug 26, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Heroes and hench do not scam.
It's your fault for playing with people.

Watch me not care.

de klootviool · Aug 26, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

Heroes and hench do not scam.
It's your fault for playing with people.

Watch me not care.

i watch you not care, i also watch you coming up this thread and write some shitty reply.

GWEXTREEMFAN · Aug 26, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

+1 reason why i never play PUG parties

and yes change darn function

Lord Zion · Aug 26, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

Heroes and hench do not scam.
It's your fault for playing with people.

Watch me not care.

yeah smatazz do UW SC with heros and henchs!!!!

Omg... Some people are retarded...

HawkofStorms · Aug 26, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Yes, you should be able to report people who are offline or in a different district then you. As it stands, bots, scammers, and foul mouthed jerks are able to easily exploit a loop hole in the system to avoid punishment. Such a loophole defeats the point of a report system.

And to anybody who goes "don't bother reporting people and suck it up," A.net added the report feature to be used (and to act as a deterent). It is not some pretty little decoration.

Lord Zion · Aug 26, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan

The report option is flawed, and this kind of thing has been brought up multible time. And is 850 really worth it?

no its not for the amount of gold, its for the attitude!

and besides that, do some math: 850x7= 5950

If he does that only 4 times a day its almost 24k daily which most regular player cant make only by playing the game.

If nobody reports him because he goes offline, he can keep doing this over and over, and get rich by scamming people and not beign reported.

upier · Aug 26, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Zion

yeah smatazz do UW SC with heros and henchs!!!!

Omg... Some people are retarded...

They are elite areas for a reason.
They aren't meant to be pugged.

What ...?

Painbringer · Aug 26, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Yeah I think it should be added but fear that PVP will abuse it. Lots of leavers with 30 seconds on the clock especially when you have an idiot runner etc... Also it may stop some syncs leavers so who knows

N1ghtstalker · Aug 26, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

anet doesn't give the possibility to enforce their rules
they should make the /report playername way go accross districts/towns/campaigns/status (offline)
/signed

duckboy · Aug 26, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

what people are forgetting tho is that ANet can easily look at when the report was made and thus surely they can get the incident in a log of somekind. So if a guild were to 'pull together' to report an innocent player, then all Anet would have to do is see when the reports were made, and then see if they even had contact with them....which obviously they wouldn't have. whoever did have contact with them, surely the log would prove what really happened....i mean even msn has chatlogs saved to ur computer so surely Anet has a chatlog saving feature on their servers for reports :/

Elder III · Aug 26, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

get screenshots, then report him next time he comes online and send the screenies to Anet when you do report him - that's the closest to proving it that you will be able to do at this point.
Also - did you actually get the conset or not>

Kanyatta · Aug 26, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Zion

no its not for the amount of gold, its for the attitude!

and besides that, do some math: 850x7= 5950

If he does that only 4 times a day its almost 24k daily which most regular player cant make only by playing the game.

If nobody reports him because he goes offline, he can keep doing this over and over, and get rich by scamming people and not beign reported.

If I lost 850g to a scammer, I might be angry for about 3.8 seconds, but after that, I'd come to the realization "850g, I make about 100 times that amount guaranteed every month just from predictions".

Trust me, it's not that big of a deal, and if someone wants to make ~25k per day from scamming, it really doesn't bother me, because in the end, what did they really just take? Virtual money from virtual people. Go out and kill stuff for 20 minutes and you'll get 850g no problem.

Yeah, the report option has its share of flaws, but not nearly as much as skill balancing, so I'm not gonna complain.

Once Anet fixes their game so much that this is the greatest of our problems, we will truly be playing a great game, until then, I don't give a rat's behind about reporting.

/notsign

Sir Seifus Halbred · Aug 26, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

1. Hasn't there been many threads on this matter in Riverside? (mainly whines)
2. Doesn't ANET not really care for scams nor do anything?
3. You always take a risk when you are being ran somewhere etc

/notsigned

BabyJ · Aug 26, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Yes, you should be able to report people who are offline or in a different district then you. As it stands, bots, scammers, and foul mouthed jerks are able to easily exploit a loop hole in the system to avoid punishment. Such a loophole defeats the point of a report system.

And to anybody who goes "don't bother reporting people and suck it up," A.net added the report feature to be used (and to act as a deterent). It is not some pretty little decoration.

You know you can still take a screenshot and report it the old fashion way. Just because they put it in game doesn't mean you can't send screenshots. Theres always been a report feature, anet just made it easier by adding it ingame. So unless someone is too lazy to take a screenshot and sent it, then yes, a player will "exploit a loophole" as you put it.

Koudelka · Aug 26, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

I've reported scammers, and Arenanet does nothing about them because it's not actually breaking the user agreement. Their stance on it is: "well it's your fault". Of course that was a desert run, a year + ago.

MisterB · Aug 26, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

You can still report anyone. Just do it online, the old-fashioned way, at their website. I don't believe they take any action against scammers anyway.

www.guildwars.com/support